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Post by erase on Oct 21, 2008 5:26:13 GMT -8
I realise I may have encouraged a few shit traders. I live my life with the "do unto others..." motto, so I sent a ton of unbiased packs. I would usually send a fat pack to anyone that asked and figured that if I sent first, they'd get a great pack and hopefully want to send another great pack back or risk feeling like a shit. As we all know, this is not the case.
I think if we're willing to sacrifice our time, whether drawing a hundred detailed as fuck slurkles or staying up til 3am three times a week putting 2 coats of liquid laminate on vinyls or scoping just the right spot for a combo, we will keep it going. I see a lot of dedicated artists and for the most part this movement has a pretty solid worldwide core.
I want to trade to get YOUR slurkles up, so I get pissed when they don't come. like 14bolt said, if you put mine up, bonus! My city is not that big, so I honestly don't want to flood it with erase, I want some variety when I run around. I put my slurkles up for my own viewing pleasure, mainly. But I also hope to open up a few eyes, and make someone smile... or cry, or soil themselves (*glance towards eep*)
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Post by 14bolt on Oct 21, 2008 14:55:07 GMT -8
Just don't trade with kids who are not serious about there work. I trade with anybody because my slurkles are printed, but if you notice I don't trade hand drawn with almost nobody.
Only the serious artist get those..... hell if you really want to clear the scene of toys." NO TRADES AT ALL" leave them on there own..... and if there motivated enough, they'll keep on.... and if there not they just disappear.
Question to everybody here: What is the slurkle scene anyways?
Personally..... slurkles is just about getting a message out. My message is promoting my artwork, and name to as many people as I can reach.
To many slurkles is just about getting up,(not trading)..... so just get up, and to all the toys.... just get up. Don't really matter if it's tags, characters, hand drawn, printed, or whatever, just get them up, get noticed, get ENS Status, get paid.
I'm not saying not to trade, but if your doing hand drawn.... yikes..... save some money and print them up.
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Post by eep! on Oct 21, 2008 19:31:05 GMT -8
"soil themselves (*glance towards eep*)" what'd i do.
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Post by erase on Oct 22, 2008 6:15:17 GMT -8
eep, oh I was just kind of describing the public's possible reactions to seeing sticks on the street... laugh, cry or (seeing a half faced bloody zombie, soil themselves) I was hoping to be a compliment!!!
14bolt - that trade freeze might work pretty well. It's seems ccc crew does a similar thing by stating "we don't trade!" even though we all know they do some trading. It's probably just to keep the shits out.
I've actually been doing a lot of handdrawn lately and hope to get them out in folks pack soon. I think it's great to be able to vary the stuff we're trading. It also helps to see firsthand how much work is put into these one timer handmades, and we all appreciate it even more.
I think it's kind of balnced for me as far as the time invested in my stickers.
vinyl: getting the designs right in computer, printing, laminating, cutting, trimming stencil: detailed cuts, painting, drying, more painting, cutting drawn:well, just drawing and colouring them!
it's nice to see peoples strengths and weaknesses as artists in each of these areas, I like to try and balnace myself...
but now I am just rambling!!
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Post by cybot on Oct 22, 2008 9:30:06 GMT -8
Yeah I wanna start doing the same, printing, stenciling and doin select handdrawns (at least ones in full colour).
There are some problems I come across:
Like how I dont wanna spend like 100000 dollars on getting one design printed, cause I think everyone hates getting a pack with aover half of them being the same.
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Post by nano on Oct 22, 2008 10:31:08 GMT -8
Like how I dont wanna spend like 100000 dollars on getting one design printed, cause I think everyone hates getting a pack with aover half of them being the same. its actually not bad, depends on size and if full colour or black/white and paper or vinyl. stickyricks and stickerobot do awesome full colour. lunapacific is the jam sauce, but they have no interwebs ordering.
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Post by 14bolt on Oct 23, 2008 14:44:51 GMT -8
Stickerguy.com does B/W vinyl cheap, and in low numbers.
If I was a newbie I would print through stickerguy(cheap).... then slowly work my way up to large volume, and higher quality printing..... posters, stencils, canvases....so on.
I prefer one cool printed sticker..... rather than an envelope of assorted garbage.
Hand drawn do rule....... but do you really want to dispose of such effort to decay in the streets? or some lame trade?
I just got some beautiful hand drawn from UWP..... and I thought that they were to good to share with me, and far to good to see them get buffed, and decay in the streets.
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Post by erase on Oct 23, 2008 17:24:51 GMT -8
I do feel blessed to have access to the equipment I do to get my vinyls out, even if it's just small batches at a time. I've seen the sticker sites and honestly never check the pricing because it doesn't concern me. It's sort of like I'm flipped... I started out with vinyl, but the appreciation of the handcrafted stuff is ever growing. Just speaking personally, I feel that putting them up is a sacrifice. Mass produced vinyls that I have semi-easy access to, would be the lesser of sacrifices. But putting up a UWP killer, or say a snub stencil would be on the higher end of that sacrifice. I really think that more people than myself should be enjoying this artwork. (14bolt, don't get me wrong. Even though your sticks are mass produced does not mean that it's not a sacrifice when I stick 'em up or trade 'em I should really get a proper blackbook together and save some of these gems...
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Post by .UWP.. on Oct 23, 2008 19:20:04 GMT -8
14 bolt and erase - you guys kick ass. thanks for the appreciation of my stickers!! it means alot! - and im glad ya got that pack safe and sound 14 bolt! thank you for always hooking me up with the fresh gear. -erase ill be thanking you for many moons for them vinyls man. good peoples, good peoples
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Post by erase on Oct 24, 2008 6:02:36 GMT -8
UWP - it is truly my pleasure Bosko - I will do my best to get some unique stuff to you before that event
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Post by synical on Oct 24, 2008 13:13:08 GMT -8
14 bolt speaks the truth.
erase is the man. im fixin your flickr business today or tomorrow..its payday.
peel will be fun. gonna have a shitload of vinyl to give away.
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Post by .UWP.. on Oct 26, 2008 9:03:11 GMT -8
i want to slowly build up a nice assortment of printed stuff. thats definetly my goal for late 2008 ans 2009. Dont get me wrong, i enjoy drawing them, hand-drawns will always be my favourite stickers of my own to put up.But recently ive fallen in love with the process of sketching stuff out and computerizing it, colours , and just learning these programs all over again. i use to do shit in highschool, but stopped going and just got chilled and got fucked up. The Philly flavor is, and will always be, hand-drawns. its kinda unspoken ya got to put in mad amounts of good work, and a few years, before ya , for lack of a better term, ''earn'' the right to print. and the prints better be good. but i feel even if i have printed stuff, i dont want it to be the majority of the stuff i have up. I think its important to demolish, and stay up, in your hometown before anything. im psyched all together, im getting over my illness, and its really inspiring.
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Post by erase on Oct 27, 2008 15:38:06 GMT -8
synical, thanks man
UWP glad to hear your'e feelin good man. And I seem to be the opposite. I have done my majority on printed vinyl. and now I'm making a transition of doing more handmade. Beleive it or not, that hunchback collab you sent me was super-inspiring, I was like "shit, I had better make this a good one"!!! So I'm kinda runnin with that eraser on 228s for now. I'm realizing fast how much work goes in... I'm just gonna borrow BTSs robot hand!!!!hehehahha!
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Post by 3MS on Oct 31, 2008 9:13:03 GMT -8
The trading thing has really helped my sticker bombing, since when your late late on 5 trades with people, your like "shit! I need to draw over a hundred stickers" Now I can pump out hand drawns, while keeping both quality and quantity up. And have a few hundred stickers to bomb with in a night.
Though many people here are more into the trading then actually getting up, this does keep up the quality of the art in this "scene" . But then again, if your not getting up, Why are you drawing on sticker paper???
just my 2 cents
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Post by .UWP.. on Oct 31, 2008 13:20:49 GMT -8
But then again, if your not getting up, Why are you drawing on sticker paper??? just my 2 cents didnt you hear, it's the new ''IN'' thing to do.
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