I don't need a movement to keep me producing stickers.... I just like stickers, so I make them, and share them. Of course it's easy to share stickers when there printed, and not handdrawn. Simple... don't trade with anyone who hasn't paid there dues on the street. If you want to see your sticker up... then just put them up yourself..... and if you decide to trade, then never expect them to put your sticker up in a combo.... be thankful if they do.
Personally printed is the only way I can spread my work with everyone. I can share my work freely without laboring over every sticker traded. I can concentrate my talents to a single image, rather than dumbing down my work for repetition. You can have vinyl stickers printed for $30=150 stickers.... that's way cheaper than art supplies, less of your personal time, and reach a larger audience.
And if you decide to trade... you include just one handdrawn, and some vinyls, and you've sent a good trade.
if you trade, what's the use in just keeping them to yourself? one or two to the private collection - the rest to the streets! i think it's some kind of honour to make a combo with great artists... and ppl that don't send their side of the trade - thats discusting! i'm in this for a very short while, but i haven't thought ppl do that...
the movement is slowing down because no one has to pay dues. the adhesive movement was never about BOMBING. i bet if you look at kids who are in the "scene" the time spent drawing stickers probably DWARFS the time spent actually getting up. LOL WHATS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE?
when you bomb you wanna put up a shitload of stickers. because regardless, you know half of that shit is gettin peeled as soon as the work bum punches his time card. if you spent 20 hours on 20 stickers, youre obviously not gonna go out and bomb with that shit. thats why you dont see that many pictures.. you give a graff writer 20 hours to spend on stickers, hes gonna have enough stickers to cover a city block. give a fuck what it looks like.. the point gets made.
the problem is people tried to create a scene out of nothing.. where you dont have to pay dues or anything. its perfectly fine for some kid to sit in his room and work on a sticker for 8 hours that he never intends to put up on anything, take a picture of it and post it on flickr.. and get jocked hardcore by other toys just like him. you cant really create and sustain a real scene when 80% of the scene doesnt really bomb/vandalize/paint, lives at home with their parents because they are under the age 17, spends allowance money on mailing packs of stickers to strangers, aint very good to begin with, etc.. these are the same kids who diss printing stickers.. they cant afford vinyl. eventually the good kids are gonna be on some 'whats in it for me' jaded cynical shit..
Post by Inkjoiiiiiii on Aug 10, 2008 13:51:44 GMT -8
you basically just described me, tbh im not too fussed about the sticker side of things, its just a good outlet for people to see my work. what you described; the graff writer who bombs etc. yeah i respect tht guy but im more about people enjoying my work than getting pissed off by some shitty tag on a postal. i wouldnt perticularly call myself a sticker artist or even that much of a street artist, but at least i admit to it, see. i have respect for you syn, but i guess its just peoples views on the game. i totally agree how 'street art' is turning into 'who can get the most brown nosing comments on flickr' but i dont really know how i feel about that. some people are good for that but there are alot of toys who try to get the fame through flickr straight away. also i think i can blame where i live for the lack of getting up, where people would get pissed by my shit everywhere. which is what happened in my old town.
tbh i dont care, i know what i want to achieve eventually, so whatever, we'll see where 'the adhesive movent' goes
i think the part that there are to many noobs out there that want it all as fast as posible is ryt, thats why i am stickering and not trading with any1, i want to do wat makes me feel good. and i dont need a shitload of stickers from diverent people for that, if people like my style than its cool, if they hate it its still cool, i've been stickering for bout 4 month's now and was a big toy sprayer for a small period before that. i think you just have to be a good artist before you start trading, its like a 3 year old that has just started to write, that is trying to sell a book. the kid has to keep on writing before it will be any good.
Post by Don Ripples on Aug 28, 2008 19:08:23 GMT -8
im with inkjoy completely, synical also described me i dont spend half my time getting up because i dont want too, id much rather draw a charac or paint a canvas then get up. i still do get up, but not that much. i dont live in the street artsy area of my city so i rarely ride my bike to go put up stickers in that area because its quite far and time consuming and i would rather not waste all my time going there.
you cant really create and sustain a real scene when 80% of the scene doesnt really bomb/vandalize/paint, lives at home with their parents because they are under the age 17, spends allowance money on mailing packs of stickers to strangers, aint very good to begin with, etc.. these are the same kids who diss printing stickers.. they cant afford vinyl. eventually the good kids are gonna be on some 'whats in it for me' jaded cynical shit..
man, money age living or shit like that wont stop a 12 years old for example to stop producing stickers. thats an awful thought that stickers aren't good if the artist can afford vinyls. im 14.5, i live with my mom, i buy with my own money supplies and stamps for packages, and yes i dont print vinyls tho i can afford it, i just know that my money wont be enough to print many designs on vinyls. and i like drawing my stickers cuz i like the process of it and i feel that i made my entire sticker by my self. i like vinyls very much and i glad i have many of them in my black book but i have much respect to the artists who sit every fuckin day producing stickers. think about it.